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As sure as the sun goes up in the morning and the Dutch weather is unpredictable, Ivan The Tolerable will be releasing record on a regular basis, and they continue to be worth your while. For his new recordings he once more asked his old King Champion Sounds bandmates Elsa van der Linden and Mees Siderius to participate and the result is Ritual In Transfigured Time, an eclectic amalgamation of kraut, post rock, weird folk, and free jazz.
In each track we are presented with a different kind of ritual, be it a quiet little personal rite, or a communal shamanic weather dance. A song like The Spiritualist for instance harks back to the days of Cluster and Harmonia, and feels like an invitation for a meditation. While the next song could be dark electro jazzer Statues-Bodies that will make your earthly vessel move itself around the floor in moody psychedelic shuffles. Across The Room could be a latter day Radiohead track if Thom Yorke fired his entire band and replaced them with glockenspiel players. More atmospheric songs like String To Ball, Another Veil, and album closer Ritual In The Hall even take you to entirely different places, as if we were being lifted from our seat and transported to the setting of the movie The Man Who Would Be King, following Sean Connery and Michael Caine in their weird journey through Asia and encountering many otherworldly customs and rituals.
Every song is a little ritual on its own, and each one will make you do, think, or feel something else. If you, like me, have been following Oli Heffernan and his tolerable alter ego for a while now you might not be as surprised as you could be. Still each new release presents new mental images, new weird twists in the Ivan spectrum, new musical approaches and insights. Each album is a new treasure chest to discover, and I am glad that I am in possession of the pirate map to find them every time.
Once again I caught up with Oli Heffernan and talked about this slice of life he is living on at this very moment. This time, as was the last time, and probably the next time is a pleasure. We make it a ritual to keep up with Ivan The Tolerable as Oli continues to explore the time space and sound continuum, as it feels like a good and healthy thing to do. So let’s get cracking, shall we?
Hi Oli! It feels like we just spoke and yet here we are again for a new album. How have you been!
All good thanks pal. Usual drill. Working, making records, sleeping a bit. I’m very much a creature of habit….been playing bass with a band called All Structures Align (ex-Nub members, Wrong Speed Records, 3rd LP out soon!) for a change of scene and that’s been fun! I sometimes get a bit stuck in my own head so its good to just get out of the house and do something else every so often.
What was the best thing that happened to you this year so far?
I’ve done some good gigs, had some nice food and been to some nice places but going to ATA Records Studio in Leeds to record a new album with Neil Innes (Work Money Death) was deffo a highlight! What a place! So much incredible gear that he just let us use, we made a double LP which will be out next year – it sounds amazing. The only time I’ve ever enjoyed being in a proper studio – we did it as a trio all in the same room together – a really great experience! More on that in 2024 though!
What can you tell me about the making of Ritual In Transfigured Time? Was it long distance or were you, Mees and Elsa in the same room?
We made it long distance as is our way. We rarely get to see each other since the band we were in together (King Champion Sounds) wound down but we do as much as we can via email. It would be nice to do one and in the same room again someday but this works just fine! We did it over the Christmas break last year and it came together really quickly. I’d been talking to Jim Putnam (Radar Brothers) who I’d worked with in the past and he told me he’d been studying the trumpet so I got him involved too! Then Ajay mixed it and it was done. Nice and Easy!
What was your aim while making it? Or perhaps you had a certain idea or mood throughout?
I rarely have an aim. I just start recording and see what happens. I don’t spend a great amount of time on anything really, I prefer music to just be more like a photograph – capture a moment and then move on. I get bored if I have to redo things or fine tune stuff. Whatever happens happens. There are no such things as mistakes.
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What was the best thing you watched on TV lately?
I watch A LOT of TV! I really enjoyed season one of The Bear – season 2 is due out this week over here in England so that’s on my list! Succession was phenomenal. Probably the best TV show ever. New season of Black Mirror is a return to form, especially the Space episode. That’s the main ones that come to mind. I watch all the bleak Scandinavian police stuff too, they are always solid…
..and the best thing you listened to?
Top 5 records I’ve been enjoying lately are You Loved Me by Patty Waters, Since Time Is Gravity by Natural Information Society, Travel by The Necks, Comradely Objects by Horse Lords and Akhenaten by Nat Birchall – there are a million more! But those are this week’s top 5! Check em out.
What can you tell me about your extra curricular activities? There are several bands next to Ivan The Tolerable that you are involved in, right?
I mainly just do Ivan in its various iterations these days, but I’ve been playing with All Structures Align a lot lately and that’s been fun – there is talk of a new University Challenged album this year but we shall see if schedules line up. I always threaten to make another Detective Instinct album but I dunno . That’s about it really – I have a full time job, plus making 5 Ivan albums a year is another full time job! if only time were infinite!
What can we expect from you for the rest of this year?
All going to plan, there was a 7″ out last week, then after Ritual is out next month, there will be another new LP in November. There are a couple of labels that will be doing proper LP releases of some of my out of print albums, the ones that scalpers sell on discogs for daft money – so I’m putting a stop to that – the first couple of them will be out later this year and continue throughout next year. And then there are NEXT YEAR’S new LPs – 2 are done and with labels ready to go already. I always think 10 steps ahead, it’s the only way I can operate. If I was a rich man I’d GLADLY pay someone to do all my social media stuff for me, I HATE That side of things – its just draining. So if anyone wants to do all that for me for no money, I’ll gladly pay them in records!
What should the Weirdo Shrine reader do after reading this interview?
Go and have a pint in the sun. It’ll soon be winter.
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